A Theory on Pleasant Nance's Parents #3

A PLEASANT NANCE LINE THEORY #3

UPDATE (5/12/2013): Having had a yDNA test done, the lines for William Malone Nance appear to be I2a where my Pleasant line Nance is an R1b. So Pleasant couldn't be a part of this line.

Notes from: Nance Register a Book Of Genealogy by: Martin L. "Pete" Nance copyright 1966 Gen PE VII -

Pleasant NANCE section contributed by Robert B. NANCE (My great uncle) " I believe but cannot prove, that Pleasant was a brother of Harden NANCE, q. v. The two lived very close to each other, and Pleasant named one of his sons Harden. My guess to Pleasant's father would be John, as he named one son John Allen NANCE, The John for his own father and the Allen for his wife's father, Allen BARKER. Then Pleasant's son Elkanah, named a child John Pleasant, which could be for his grandfather and father.

I may have found a link to some other NANCE's with another surname of mine....who could quiet possible be Pleasant's grand parents.. and if Robert Nance's theory about Pleasant's father being named John.. This Nance (William and Elizabeth THORNTON) has a son named John but haven't anything on him yet.. I found it by accident I was putting stuff in My "All NANCE" database from my website and vice versa and I came across a Mary J. NANCE who married a Samuel GAULDING (I have GAULDING's in my line) the Surity was Hiram McDANIEL (I have this Hiram McDANIEL in my line if it is the same). Mary's parents are William Malone Nance and Elizabeth Thornton.. and further digging I found that Presly Thornton who is Elizabeth's father mentions a Randolph McDANIEL in his will. I have a Randolph as being Hiram's father in my line.

1    William Malone NANCE    b: 18 Jan 1760 in Amelia County, VA    d: 08 Nov 1843 in Pittsylvania County, VA
..        +Elizabeth THORNTON    b: 1767 in Orange, VA    d: Bet. Nov 1850 - Jun 1860 in Pittsylvania County, VA
....    2     James NANCE    b: 25 Oct 1783 in Pittsylvania County, VA    d: 05 May 1855 in Pittsylvania County, VA
........        +Charlotte HARRISON    b: Abt. 1795    d: 09 Jun 1848 in Pittsylvania County, VA
....    2     Amelia NANCE    b: 02 Nov 1787 in Pittsylvania County, VA
....    2     John W. NANCE    b: 23 Mar 1790 in Pittsylvania County, VA    d: Bet. Nov 1850 - Jun 1860 in Pittsylvania County, VA
....    2     Frederick NANCE    b: 02 Aug 1792 in Pittsylvania County, VA
....    2     Robert N. NANCE    b: 21 Mar 1797 in Pittsylvania County, VA
....    2     Mary "Polly" May NANCE    b: 12 Mar 1799 in Pittsylvania County, VA    d: 20 Mar 1881 in Pittsylvania County, VA
........        +Samuel B. GAULDING    b: 1793 in Pittsylvania County, VA    d: 13 Feb 1858 in Pittsylvania County, VA
....    2     Jane "Ginsy" NANCE    b: 12 Sep 1800 in Pittsylvania County, VA    d: Bef. 11 Jun 1880
........        +Pleasant H. STEPHENS    b: Abt. 1790 in VA    d: 1872 in Pittsylvania County, VA
....    2     Patsy B. NANCE    b: 12 Mar 1805 in Pittsylvania County, VA
(**I have nothing on John W. Nance except possible the 1830 Pittsylvaina Co. VA census below)

1820 Pittsylvania County VA Census
Pg. #53 written 781 No Township Listed
Line 32 William M. NANCE 000111-01201-5011-1111-0010-0000-000
1 Free White Male of 16 and under 26 (Robert N. 23 b. 21 Mar 1797)
1 Free White Male of 26 and under 45 (Fredrick 28 b. 02 Aug 1792)
1 Free White Male of 45 and up (William Malone 60 b. 18 Jan 1760)
1 Free White Female of 10 and under 16 (Patsey B. 15 b. 12 Mar 1805)
2 Free White Females of 16 and under 26 (Jane "Ginsy" 20 b. 12 Sep 1800, Mary 21 b. 12 Mar 1799)
1 Free White Female of 45 and up (Elizabeth (THORNTON) abt 53)

Can't find John in the 1820 census

1830 Pittsylvania County VA Census John may not be in the house hold where is he???
Schedule of the whole number of Persons within the Division allotted to Thos. W. Wooding by the Marshal
of Eastern District (or Territory) of Virginia, Pg. #312 written 301 No Township Listed
Line 25 William NANCE 0001020001000-0000200010000
1 Free White Male of 15 and under 20
2 Free White Males of 30 and under 40 (Frederick 38 b. 02 Aug 1792, ?)
1 Free White Male of 70 and under 80 (William Malone 70 b. 18 Jan 1760)
2 Free White Females of 20 and under 30 (Patsey 25 b. 12 Mar 1805, Jane 30 b. 12 Sep 1800)
1 Free White Female of 60 and under 70 (Elizabeth (THORNTON) abt. 63)

1830 Pittsylvania County VA Census
Schedule of the whole number of Persons within the Division allotted to Thomas W. Wooding by the Marshal
of Eastern District (or Territory) of Virginia, Pg. #373 written 60 No Township Listed
Line 24 Jno W. NANCE 3110000100000-10200010000
3 Free White Males under 5
1 Free White Male of 5 and under 10
1 Free White Males of 10 and under 15 (Could this be Pleasant??? 15 b. abt. 1814)
1 Free White Male of 50 and under 60 (John? (son of William above?) 50 b. 23 Mar 1790)
1 Free White Female under 5
2 Free White Females of 10 and under 15
1 Free White Female of 40 and under 50 (Pleasant's mother?)

PLEASANT | 1836 | Henry | Pleasant NANCE married Eliza BARKER, dau of Allen BARKER, 15 Nov 1836.
Henry County Virginia Marriage Bonds 1778-1849 by Virginia Anderton Dodd.
Henry County, VA; Early American Marriages: Virginia to 1800, Jordan R. Dodd

1840 Henry County, VA Census Bk. 33, p. 292
Schedule of the whole number of Persons within the Division allotted to George S. Staples by the Marshal
of Eastern District (or Territory) of Virginia, Bk 33 Pg #292 No Township Listed
Line 6 Pleasant NANCE 2000100000000-0001000100000 Total 5, 1 Agriculture
2 Free White Males under 10 (James G. 3 b. 30 Oct 1837, and Harden 1 b. 20 Oct 1839)
1 Free White Male of 20 and under 30 (Pleasant abt. 26)
1 Free White Female of 15 and under 20 (Eliza (BARKER) abt. 18)
1 Free White Female of 50 and under 60(*) (Pleasant's mother? an aunt? visiting?)
(*The 50-60 year old could not be Eliza's mother because she is living in Henry County VA with Allan BARKER her husband)

1840 Pittsylvania County VA Census
Schedule of the whole number of Persons within the Division allotted to William Buford by the Marshal
of Eastern District (or Territory) of Virginia, Pg #115 No Township Listed, Southern District
Line 19 William M. NANCE 1000100100100-0000010001000 No Colored
1 Free White Male under 5 years
1 Free White Male of 20 and under 30 (William M. 20 b. 7 Apr 1820)
1 Free White Male of 50 and under 60
1 Free White Male of 80 and under 90 (William Malone 80 b. 18 Jan 1760)
1 Free White Female of 30 and under 40 (Patsey B. 35 b. 12 Mar 1805)
1 Free White Female of 70 and under 80 (Elizabeth (THORNTON) abt. 73)

1840 Pittsylvania County VA Census
Schedule of the whole number of Persons within the Division allotted to William Buford by the Marshal
of Eastern District (or Territory) of Virginia, Pg #135 No Township Listed, Southern District
Line 6 John NANCE 0112000100000-0011000100000 No Colored, Slaves 100000-010000 Total 10, 1 in Manufactures or Trade
1 Free White Male of 5 and under 10
1 Free White Male of 10 and under 15
2 Free White Males of 15 and under 20
1 Free White Male of 50 and under 60 (John abt. 50 b. abt. 1790)
1 Free White Female of 10 and under 15
1 Free White Female of 15 and under 20
1 Free White Female of 50 and under 60

Schedule I. Free Inhabitants in No Township Listed in the County of Henry State of Virginia
enumerated by me on the 31st day of August, 1850 Tho. E. Denegard?? Ass't Marshal PAGE NO: 38b M432 952
24 528 528 Pleasant NANCE, 36, M, Farmer, VA, Couldn't read or write
25 528 528 Eliza (BARKER) NANCE, 28, F, VA
26 528 528 James G(arland) NANCE, 13, M, VA, Attending school
27 528 528 Harden NANCE, 11, M, VA, Attending school
28 528 528 John A(llen) NANCE, 8, M, VA, Attending school
29 528 528 Charles NANCE, 7, M, VA
30 528 528 Elkanah NANCE, 4, M, VA

Schedule I. Free Inhabitants in No Township Listed in the County of Henry State of Virginia
enumerated by me on the 31st day of August, 1850 Tho. E. Denegard?? Ass't Marshal PAGE NO: 41b M432 952
25 564 564 Betsey NANCE, 62, F, VA, Couldn't read or write
(could this be Pleasant NANCE's (above) mother???)

Schedule I. Free Inhabitants in The Southern District 623 in the County of Pittsylvania State of Virginia
enumerated by me on the 30th day of October, 1850 Wm. H. Wooding Ass't Marshal PAGE NO: 110b M432 968
25 623 623 Elizabeth (THORNTON?) NANCE, 80, F, VA
26 623 623 John NANCE, 60, M, Farmer, VA
(could this be Pleasant NANCE's (above) father???)

So could the line go like this if John, son of William Malone NANCE and Elizabeth THORNTON, be Pleasant's father???
Richard+Alice LNU<John+Sarah G/SOOKINGS<John+Jane SMART<John+Mary GILES<Giles+Mary MALONE<
William+Elizabeth THORNTON<John+(wife Elizabeth??? have nothing on John neither)<
Pleasant+Eliza BARKER<Elkanah+Mary OWENS<Beverly+Lula CARR<
Woodrow+Sarah SOWERS<Woodrow+Wanda MINTON<Sonia(me)